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1 Question What is the difference in the codes and Our physician requested that we ask the following coding/billing question: 1) is x 2 appropriate coding, 2) x 2 appropriate coding, and 3) is x 2 appropriate coding? When is it appropriate to use codes & in the same setting? do you code laminectomies by segment or interspace? what modifier can we use for a corpectomy (L3-L4)and posterolateral fusion done on same day. The corpectomy was done after the posterolateral (L1-S1) What is the CPT code for a pulsed intercostal radiofrequency ablation? If there is a procedure for t12 and L1 (two diff parts) but connecting would the procedures related be 51 or 59 I love Lynn. What a great teacher. can a 4 level bilateral interbody fusion with 4 peek cages be coded lumbar 22612, 22614, , to prevent a duplicate denial and can the peed cage be coded x 4 on one line Answer only covers a decompression and covers the decompression and arthrodesis. If the decompression and arthrodesis are performed at the same operative session, must be used rather than and has a medically unlikely edit that it can only be reported once is reported by spinal region, so in your case if you are in the lumbar area so you should only report once also. This is very controversial but you should be able to report it if the physician is removing lamina or disk on the anterior side of the spine from a posterior approach to make space for instrumentationn, cages, grafts, etc. It depends on what laminectomy you are performing. The description of the code will describe whether to use interspace or vertebral segment. If I am understanding your question, the corpectomy is performed at a different level than the fusion. In general, the modifier 59 is reported to note different levels. There currently is no code for pulsed radiofrequency. The AMA is stating that should be used and it is not appropriate to use When crossing over spinal areas you should not use two primary codes, but use the additional level codes. The primary code in this case would be the T12, and the additional level would be reported with the additional level code Thanks for the kind words. I do not believe you need to report the 76 modifier on the add on codes for spine. You might want to look at 22630, for interbody fusion can only be reported once per level, so in this case if a cage is placed in each interspace, it can be reported x 4.

2 can you bill the tranpendicular and costovertebral approach for the same level I was taught that when a deompression and fusion is done at the same level insurance will deny unless radiculopathy is the dx for the decompression and to use a 59 mod not 51. I believe this contradicts what you said earlier. Please clarify Would you code a T10 pulsed radiofrequency ablation using or 64999? what code would the cardiovascular surgeon use when he merely opened up the patient for us to do a fusion?? i do not want to give this surgeon the fusion code of say is a percutaneous disectomy the same as a kyphoplasty? I coded a surgery using 63075, 63076, 22551, and The and was not paid saying payment adjusted because this procedure/service is not paid separatley. What am I doing wrong? Can the kyphoplasty and vertebroplasty ever been performed in the office setting? if an injection of lumbar (L4) (L5-S1) 64484, is this coded correct? then when its bilateral how is it coded. Pls. help. we need proper coding for the ASPEN or AXEL devices please and are not a CCI edit however the CPT code descriptions basically describe the same procedure. It would have to be proved as medically necessary in the documentation, and may still be a problem. Normally, the 59 modifier is used to note different levels. A decompression and fusion at the same level would then need a 51 modifier because it is at the same level. There currently is no code for pulsed radiofrequency. The AMA is stating that should be used and it is not appropriate to use Because the opening is included in 22558, the cardiovascualr surgeon should report the with a 62 modifier as well as the spine surgeon A percutaneous discectomy is the removal of disc, a kyphoplasty is a percutaneous procedure to repair vertebral fractures by insertion of cement through a needle with balloon and inclued 63075, and need to be reported when the discectomy and fusion are performed at the same session and are only reported if only a discectomy is performed. If your surgeon is performing this with another surgeon performing the fusion, both phyisicians must report the and with modifier 62 According to CMs Physicians Fee Schedule there is a facility and non-facility fee. Insurance carriers may have their own policies. According to the CMS Relative Value file these procedures can be billed as bilateral, so each CPT code can be reported with modifier 50, and don't forget to double the price. Answer:There is currently no code for the ASPEN device and it should be reported with I suggest prior authorization because some insurance carriers may consider it experimental and/or investigational. CIGNA does. For the AXLE device, I am not familiar with that one.

3 how would the endoscopic disectomy be coded in the lumbar area? 0275T is more than likely the current code for this effective July 1, Please review this CPT Category III code with the physician. when billing spinal tumors with instrumentation do you use and Answer : Per the CPT guidelines listed under in the CPT manual you and or do you use should be only using with 63172, 63173, 63185, 63190, When using do you bill and or for the Please see the guidelines in the CPT manual after for instructions. instrumentation after removing the tumor. what code is appropriate for a revision of a laminectomy The only codes that refer to reexploration are If these are not appropriate, see the laminectomy codes. If you utilize a laminectomy code other than you may be able to report a 22 modifier if there is enough complexity to the procedure and it is documented. when billing in order to report does it have to be a re-rupture of a disc that was operated on previously? We have been getting denials for CPT code by Medicare - this is a valid code in CPT but not on MDCR fee schedule - what are your thoughts on open tx of fx for this?? Is there any difference in coding MIS for fusion codes? On the example with the with a 62 modifier, what if your spine surgeon has an Assistant? Can they bill for the AS in order to be able to bill the add on codes performed by the spinal surgeon and the assistant surgeon, not by the cardiovascular surgeon? Would you use for an epidural abscess? Another co worker and I do not agree on this. Provider performed laminectomy at T9, T10, T10 with uninstrumented fusion with autograft at T9-T10 & T10-T11. Any suggestions is greatly appreciated. Loving this webinar as well. Very informational!!! It does not have to be re-ruptured to report this code. Answer : This is not a spine coding question, however see G0412 for the code to report this to Medicare It depends on the physicians definition of MIS. If it is endoscopic, there are the new Category III codes effective July 1, See presentation slide #35. most insurance carriers will only reimburse for a co-surgeon or an assistant per code. If you are billing with a 62 for the cardio surgeon performing the approach, most carriers will not allow an assistant also, but you could report the additional levels with the AS modifier because you wouldn't have to report these with a can be used as long as a laminectomy was necessary to be able to reach and remove the abcess and that is the specific reason why the laminectomy was performed

4 What do you use for sacroplasty and what would you use for repairing the sternum, similarly when it does not heal from surgery? When is it appropriate to bill and together and would you use a modifier? If we are billing for our spine surgeon, even knowing that most carriers won't cover an assistant charge, if we don't bill it than the add on codes are denied for the assistant as they are being billed without a primary procedure code. Any thoughts? can we report and together? we are not getting reimbursed but slide 33 says we can bill them?? On a TLIF our surgeons perform both an interbody fusion (22630) as well as a posterolateral fusion (22612). Are both of these codes reportable? There are Category III codes for sacroplasty, 0200T and 0201T, but not these are percutaneous and may be considered experimental and investigational. For the sternum repair, please refer to This may be what you are looking for. These procedures are anterior and posterior so a modifier 59 would be used if I assume correctly that two incisions are made. Good point. I would suggest that you report the primary code with no charge attached. That may help. Only my suggestion. They are a CCI edit so many insurance carriers will consider the removal included in the reinsertion at the same session. Check with your carriers on whether they follow CCI. You should be able to but sometimes difficult to get reimbursed. This is very controversial but you should be able to report it if the physician is removing lamina or disk on the anterior side of the spine from a posterior approach to make space for instrumentationn, cages, grafts, etc. When do you use modifier 80? is appropriate to use for a revision of a laminectomy can you use a 80 modifier at a teaching facility Does Medicare reimburse Category III procedure codes? Could you expalin the guidelines for the difference between codes and 22554? Modifier 80 is used when a physician is the assistant surgeon and there are some insurance carriers that want the 80 modifier instead of AS for non physician practitioners. Yes, when are not applicable. Assistants are not normally accepted at a teaching facility because it is expected that residents are used for the assistants at surgery. If a resident is not available for some reason, it has to be clearly documented in the operative report why a resident was not utilized, and modifier 82 should be used. They will reimburse only some. Please check with your local carrier. The general rule of thumb is that if it is listed in an LCD or in the fee schedule, it will be reimbursed based on the medical necessity Effective in 2011 you cannot report and anymore but must report and You can only report and if one or the other are performed, but not together

5 Thank you for including the additional questions in the Q & A. You are welcome. Does Medicare reimburse Category III codes? how can you appropiatley code a cervical disc replacement acdf 1 or 2 level? what code is appropriate for a revision of a laminectomy They will reimburse only some. Please check with your local carrier. The general rule of thumb is that if it is listed in an LCD or in the fee schedule, it will be reimbursed based on the medical necessity and 0092T. Currently, most insurance carriers will only reimburse this at one level. Additional levels are considered investigational and experimental There is one group of codes for re-exploration If these are not appropriate use the regular laminectomy codes.

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