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Interview Dean Benard Benard + Associates Investigative Interviewing Preparing for the Interview Organize! Research issue Research interviewee Research other players Gather all your information and try to go into each interview having a good grasp of the issues and the players Know the key issues and the best questions to ask This will not be possible in all situations Enforcement and Regulation 1

Four Components of an Interview Orientation Narration and Questioning Summarizing Closure Preparation Preparation is key so think about Location of interview Goals of the interview Review relevant documents in advance and have them ready if you need them Know the questions that need to be answered Be aware of any cultural, gender or racial issues that may be present Location Considerations Complainants usually prefer a neutral location Avoid interviewing in any place where you cannot control the environment Avoid people s homes Avoid restaurants or coffee shops Telephone interviews are okay in many circumstances Enforcement and Regulation 2

Interview Goals 1. Ensure the witness understands the process 2. Gain the witness s willingness to cooperate now and in the future 3. Establish a rapport with the witness 4. Assess their non-verbal communication 5. Obtain a complete and truthful statement Interviewing Process Ensure the comfort of the witness cigarette, washroom, drink Advise the witness that there may be difficult questions If using audio / videotape explain why Reassure the witness that he/she may not remember everything and that s okay Advise the witness that he/she can ask questions and take breaks if needed Interviewing Techniques and Skills Orientation Build Rapport with the subject Remember the old maxim about first impressions Consider how you want to appear to the interviewee Before the interview begins Explain why they are there and how they can help Ask the interviewee ifhe or she has any questions. Enforcement and Regulation 3

SM1 Establishing Rapport Set the tone of the interview from the moment you meet the interviewee Ideally, you want the interviewee to relax At the outset of the interview: Explain why they are there and how they can help Ask the interviewee if he or she has any questions Why Establish Rapport? Likeability factor People will give more and cooperate more with someone they like Helps to determine the baseline Reactions and general behavior may be compared to more stressful periods during the interview Establishing Rapport Good baseline / rapport building questions: What do you think of this weather we have been having? How about those [insert name of a sports team]! How long have you lived in? Self disclosure can be good, but be careful Enforcement and Regulation 4

Slide 10 SM1 I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to insert the video about "bad rapport" before this slide - might be better not to have the videos back-to-back, and then you can give points about how and why to establish rapport, and then conclude that section with the video demonstrating "good rapport." Sarah Marceau, 4/16/2012

Active Listening LISTEN carefully to what your subject says Physically demonstrate you are listening Whenever possible, avoid using a script Don t anticipate certain answers You may need to re-ask questions to confirm the interviewee s position Active Listening Don t rush to the next question on your list Take a moment to consider what the interviewee has told you Listen for answers that leave you with more questions Ask organic, unanticipated questions as they pop up or mark your notes to ask them later Interviewing Techniques and Skills Narration & Questioning Initially avoid questions that have a yes or no answer Make sure that your questions are clear Do not embed questions within a question Drill down Don t avoid embarrassing terms Enforcement and Regulation 5

Refine and Clarify Purpose is to refine and clarify the issues Use open-ended questions to draw out the information Get a sense of the big picture Allow complainant to set the parameters Use direct questions to confirm their position or understanding of an issue Interviewing Techniques Human memory often requires assistance to retrieve details and facts Provide some general information about the events Use documents that might assist in recollection Allow the witness to tell her/his story in full then seek clarificationor ask follow-up questions This can be a challenge with some witnesses who require more prompting or assistance in staying on point Interview Questions Know what you are looking for in advance of the interview Ensure your own understanding of the facts before you commence your interview Write down important questions in advance Write down questions or the need for clarifying comments when they come to mind as the witness provides the statement Enforcement and Regulation 6

Interview Questions Example: A person is alleged to have struck another person What questions will you ask? Interview Questions Don t be afraid to ask the difficult questions! Ensure there is no doubt about what happened (e.g. sexual abuse allegation) Slept together (what does this mean?) Sexual relations could be anything depending on who you ask Remember Bill Clinton?! People Will Challenge Us As investigators it is our job to be lied to Half truths Absent information Outright lies Remember Bill Clinton s comments on sexual relations? Enforcement and Regulation 7

Dealing with Challenging Interviewees Answeringquestionswith questions Repeat the question as you originally asked it Phrases like That s basicallyit or I guess that is all I can remember Might be genuine, OR Might be an admission that the intervieweehas more to tell keep probing use reference points Dealing with Challenging Interviewees Hypothetically structured phrases I would normally do this Might answer this way if he or she cannot remember It could be a way of avoiding an answer keep probing Confirm what they did on the day in question Dealing with Challenging Interviewees Indignation about a question may signal deception, e.g. What kind of question is that? or I would not dignify that question with an answer. Stay calm and repeat the question with an explanation as to why it must be asked Enforcement and Regulation 8

The Uncooperative Interviewee Shift questions to another person or topic to at least get them talking Try to show some sympathy with the person s situation Point out things that are odd and ask them to comment Use silence to apply pressure The Overly Cooperative Interviewee When interviewees go off-topic: Politely interrupt them Emphasize the relevant issues Summarize what they have said Then ask your next question Use probing, direct questions to hone in on the topics you require further info on Dealing with a Sensitive Subject Interviewees may be hesitant to cooperate if the subject matter is difficult to talk about Interviewees may feel: Intimidated by the process and the investigator Guilty or responsible for the incident Fear reprisal for cooperating Fear being disbelieved Enforcement and Regulation 9

Dealing with a Sensitive Subject Interviewees in these situations may be: Quiet and withdrawn Angry (may see this verbally and in body language) High level of anxiety Tearful and sad Extremely talkative Dealing with a Sensitive Subject Assure interviewee that he/she can ask questions and take breaks if needed Explain there will be difficult questions Acknowledge how difficult disclosure can be Explain how you will conduct the interview Provide reasons for audio / videotape Assure the interviewee that it is okay if he/she does not remember everything Dealing with a Sensitive Subject Don t be afraid to ask the difficult questions! Ensure there is no doubt about what happened Clarify any terms and phrases used by the interviewee to describe what happened Ask for details and descriptions Enforcement and Regulation 10

Assessing Credibility Consider the following: Assess demeanor Consistency of memory Evasive responses Potential for Bias or a motive to falsify Inherent implausibility Assessing Credibility Is the witness forthcoming with information or reluctant? Does the witness seem too eager to provide information? Can the information be corroborated by other witnesses or documentary evidence? Does the witness stand up well to a challenge by the interviewer? Assessing Credibility Ask for details Ask the interviewee to provide some details in reverse chronology Statement analysis Written statements can be analyzed for truth Look for a blip sandwiched between long descriptions of less relevant information Enforcement and Regulation 11

Assessing Credibility Observe carefully for non-verbal communication during stressful questions Turning away, leaning away or crossing the arms Opposites saying no while nodding the head in the affirmative Hand wringing sitting on hands Fidgety behavior Assessing Credibility #1 Myth Eye contact will assist in determining deception Dozens of studies done all over the world on eye contact and deception Conclusion No difference whatsoever between liars and truth tellers BUT the eyes may tell us a great deal Neurolinguistic programming Techniques (NLP) Eye direction tells us what part of the brain we are accessing to recall information or create information Remember! Regardless of your comfort level in assessing credibility using these techniques, a solid investigation process will get you the answers you need. Enforcement and Regulation 12

Summary Plan your interview Know your content what you have and what you need Build rapport Use a variety of questioning techniques Take thorough notes and keep them Maintain control and direction Leave the door open for future contact Thank You! Dean Benard dbenard@benardinc.com www.benardinc.com 1-888-733-2226 Enforcement and Regulation 13