Enhancing Child Immunity with or without Vaccines Guest: Dr. Larry Palevsky

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1 Enhancing Child Immunity with or without Vaccines Guest: Dr. Larry Palevsky The contents of this presentation are for informational purposes only and are not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. This presentation does not provide medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. Dr. Hardick: Hi, again! And welcome back to The Detox Project. This is Dr. B.J. Hardick, the author of Real Detox. My website is I m very thrilled for this very special interview with Dr. Lawrence Palevsky. Dr. Palevsky is a board-certified pediatrician. He s a sought-after lecturer and published author who utilizes a holistic approach to children s wellness and illness. Dr. Palevsky, whom I have known now personally for six or seven years, received his medical degree from the New York University School of Medicine in He completed a pediatric residency at the Mount Sinai Hospital in New York City and a fellowship at Bellevue Hospital New York University School of Medicine in the pediatric outpatient department and emergency room by Dr. Palevsky served as the chief of the pediatric acute care unit at New York City s Lenox Hill Hospital from 1995 until Now, Dr. Palevsky began his practice in the holistic, integrative world as a pediatrician for the Center for Health and Healing, which is an integrative and complementary care medical facility affiliated with the Beth Israel Medical Center in New York City. Dr. Palevsky is a former fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics. He s the past president of the American Holistic Medical Association. He s also a diplomat of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine. TheDetoxProject.com. All rights reserved. 1

2 Dr. Palevsky, we re so thrilled to have you here on The Detox Project! Dr. Palevsky: Aww, thank you for inviting me. It s good to be here! Dr. Hardick: Well, we want to get into a ton of topics. And you just bring a wealth of knowledge. I would start out by saying this. The Detox Project is all about sources of toxicity and methods of detoxification. Dr. Palevsky, you ve been featured in a number of documentaries showcasing an alternative view to vaccines. And naturally, a lot of parents, and certainly people that are watching here on The Detox Project, have questions about toxicity in vaccines. But before we even address those, as a pediatrician what other types of daily toxicities and what other sources of toxicities are you most concerned about for young children today? Dr. Palevsky: Well, when I work with kids from a holistic perspective, I m looking at all the methods in which information enters their body. And if you really look at, there are about seven or eight methods by which information enters their body. One is the birth mother and birth father. Two is from whatever exposures the children have in utero. So whatever the mother s eating, drinking, thinking, makeup, perfumes, medicine she s taking, electromagnetic radiation, skin care products, injections she s received, anything that s coming into her nervous system during the pregnancy. So you have the genetic material. You have the in utero exposures to the baby. And then when the baby s born, baby s exposed to at least five ways of information coming in to his or her body: the air that the child breathes, the food that goes into the mouth. the skincare products that are used. The nervous system exposures, again emotions, thoughts, schedules, stress and the environment, as well as the electromagnetic radiation. And then the last thing is vaccinations. So a baby has to be able to manage the load of all of that information. And the baby then has to manage any sensitivity [inaudible] a small amount to the material that enters the body. And so the body is equipped to take on impurities. And it s specifically designed to separate impurities from purities. And so knowing full well that there s always impurities in every manner in which material enters the body, the body is working towards getting rid of TheDetoxProject.com. All rights reserved. 2

3 those impurities. There are also impurities that develop as a result of the body s usage of the pure material that does come in for its benefit. So then if you look at the body, the body has to be able to try to remove those impurities. And it does so almost the same way it does by the avenues in which the material enters. You breathe out gases. You urinate waste. You defecate stool waste. You sweat and you smell through your skin waste. And you get rid of waste through your nervous system. And that s through sleeping, through exercising, through movement, through rest. So I m most concerned about, not just all of those sources of toxicity So the toxins in the air, the pesticides that are breathed in, the material that s in our food, the lack of nutrients in the food, the toxins in the food, the toxins that we re injected with, the thought toxins that we re exposed to, the stress that hits our nervous system through electromagnetic radiation.i m just as concerned with the body s capacity to be able to remove those because it s really about a balance and a sensitivity. So if you have a great load of toxins but your body is capable of removing them at a pace that keeps up with the load, then you re probably going to be pretty okay. But if you have a load that you re exposed to that s greater than your body s capacity to get rid of it, you re going to build up toxicity. And the method by which the body gets rid of toxicity is through acute illnesses: fever, vomiting, diarrhea, mucus production. The flu-like illness is actually the way the body gets rid of excess waste beyond what the body can hold on to. My big concern is our misunderstanding of what the purpose of an acute illness is. So to me, a daily toxicity is suppressing the symptoms of acute illness, which is actually a suppression of the body s capacity to get rid of the toxins. And this is where we re creating chronic illness by not allowing the body to actually get sick in order for it to become well. So one of our daily toxicities is our misunderstanding of what an acute illness is meant to do and how it s meant to recreate a balance of reducing the load of toxins that have come, reducing the body s sensitivity to the toxins, even in small amounts and recreating balance so that the impurities don t build up. Chronic illness is basically a buildup of too many toxins. Dr. Hardick: Maybe you can put it into other words, maybe in terms of types of conditions that people might be seeing that maybe they re calling it the name of a certain condition. But it s actually really, truly associated with a TheDetoxProject.com. All rights reserved. 3

4 toxicity either in an acute or a chronic form. What are types of conditions people see? Dr. Palevsky: Well, the ones that I deal with every day in my office when I see kids with chronic conditions is enlarged tonsils and adenoids. The lymph tissue is the part of the immune system that gathers all the waste and toxins that fall outside the bloodstream and that don t go out through exhaling, urinating, defecating, sweating and smelling and sleeping. So the lymph tissues and the tonsils and the adenoids, which directly drain the intestinal system and the head and neck will get swollen if the body creates more and more loads of toxins and sensitized to these toxins and is incapable of getting rid of them. And so that s why the lymph tissues swells, too much in the way of toxins. If you don t stop putting the toxins in, then the tonsils and the adenoids are going to stay big. If you start to learn what s creating the sensitivity and the load of toxins that makes the sinuses and tonsils and the adenoids swell, almost always from the diet, if you can learn what they are, then you can start to remove them from the diet and actually watch the tonsils and the adenoids reduce in size. But you also have to facilitate the body s capacity to increase its drainage. And so lymph tissue can t come out if there s a whole slew of other toxins in the body. And if the kidneys aren t draining, if the liver isn t draining, if the intestines aren t capable of getting rid of the waste that are stuck in the crypts and valleys of the intestinal villi, which happens when you have chronic illness, you get these trapped toxins some people call it biofilm that actually begins to trap these waste and toxins that continue to flick information, the inflammation into the body. So asthma, again you re supposed to breathe out gas when you exhale. But what happens when kids or adults get asthma is actual physical particles. Physical waste come up to the lining of the airway from the bloodstream and irritate the lining of the airway. Well, what does irritation of the lining of the airway do when these physical materials Remember, the airway s just used to getting gas out. Now, what happens if it s building up a huge load of physical matter? Well, the airway s going to get irritated. Inflammation of the airway will lead to increased mucus production because mucus is responsible for getting rid of particulate, physical waste matter. So what happens when mucus increases? TheDetoxProject.com. All rights reserved. 4

5 Well, the airway gets clogged. What happens when the airway gets clogged? You cough. What happens when you cough and the airway gets clogged? Well, you start to wheeze because there s less and less airway space. And again, there s a direct line of blood flow and lymph flow directly from the gut up to the airway. And if you re eating non-food products, which is most of processed foods, and if you re eating foods to which you have a sensitivity, it s going to travel. If it doesn t get out through the intestines, if it doesn t get out through the liver, then it s going to pass the liver and go up to the lining of the airway. And that s going to create the irritation of the airway plus the increase in inflammation, wheezing, bronchospasm, and cough. Eczema. Same thing. Kids with eczema, adults with eczema are merely dealing with asthma on the skin. So instead of the waste trying to get out through the airway, the waste goes out through the skin. Autism. Again, what happens is you get a Most of the kids that I ve seen with autism and neurodevelopmental disabilities have waste and toxins that enter in through the nervous system into the nervous system pass the blood-brain barrier and create inflammation in the brain. That interferes with important neurodevelopmental pathways that stops very important processing disorders, leading to processing disorders, speech delays, executive function issues because the toxins have gotten through into the cerebellum, the prefrontal cortex, the occipital lobe, where vision happens, auditory processing and the auditory processing part of the brain. All of these areas become intoxicated because material is capable of getting across the blood-brain barrier. Micro waves can decrease the function of the blood-brain barrier allowing for entry of inflammatory material into the brain. Infections can increase the permeability of the blood-brain barrier leading to entry of material into the brain that shouldn t be there, which causes toxicity. And vaccine materials directly enter the brain through the blood-brain barrier and cause inflammation. And that s why we re seeing so many kids with neuroinflammatory and neurodevelopmental disabilities. Dr. Hardick: I know that we re dealing with hundreds and thousands of manmade chemicals that are in the environment and in food and in personal care products. So this may be a difficult question to ask, a difficult question for you to answer. But, in general, have you started to see that there are any types of conditions that are more associated with one type of toxin than TheDetoxProject.com. All rights reserved. 5

6 another? For instance, certain conditions associated more with plastics versus pesticides versus heavy metals or is it all multifactorial? Dr. Palevsky: Well, I think it s multifactorial, especially since again most kids All of us have a certain threshold by which we can tolerate a certain exposure to a load and still be able to tolerate it. But then, it becomes the synergistic effects of all the toxins. So it s not just like some kids will have a better capability of getting rid of aluminum than others. And some kids won t be bothered by aluminum. But if you add mercury and lead to it, no matter how good their capability is of detoxing, that load, that synergistic effect is way beyond what their detoxification pathways are capable of handling. So it s a relationship. And medicine actually has a word for this. It s called the allostatic principles or allostasis, where it s not just about the load of toxins or the sensitivity that each person may have to the toxins. But it s also based on the relationship between that load and that sensitivity with the capacity to be able to handle what the load is and to handle the sensitivity. So it s a relationship. If your detoxification pathways have been impaired, you may not need a big load at all to set you off and get you ill because your capacity has reduced so greatly based on other environmental factors or even genetic factors. So it s really about a relationship, not just about one specific toxin. Dr. Hardick: Well, you mentioned aluminum. You mentioned mercury. You mentioned lead. There s topics all there that we could hit. I d like to ask you about mercury first because generally speaking, we ve been told for many years now that mercury has been removed from the majority of vaccines. Or we ve been told that the type of mercury in the remaining vaccines is not a harmful type of mercury, but more so a safer or more harmless type of mercury. So what are your thoughts on this, in particular? Dr. Palevsky: Okay, there s no safe level of mercury to enter the body. And certainly, there s no safe level to inject into the body. In 1999, the American Academy of Pediatrics came out with a position statement saying that it was a good idea to remove thimerosal from vaccines, not because they thought it was endangering any children, but it was just a good idea. And it took about three or four years before most of the load of vaccines containing thimerosal were removed from the market. TheDetoxProject.com. All rights reserved. 6

7 So in about 2003, 2004, we started to see package inserts that said, Trace thimerosal. So there were still some thimerosal. But it was now trace. Somewhere soon after that, the trace thimerosal disappeared from the package inserts. But the trace thimerosal didn t disappear from the actual vaccines themselves. So people think that thimerosal s no longer in vaccines. But it is. And it s there as a trace amount. The flu vaccine predominantly, most of the flu vaccines that we give to kids, contains a large amount of thimerosal. Which, again is exactly the amount that we used to give before the 1999 position paper. And somehow, that seems to be okay. Nobody has created any outrage that this reintroduction of higher levels of thimerosal into the flu vaccine, especially given to pregnant women, is somehow okay to give. When it isn t. The irony of this is that when they reduced the thimerosal in 1999, they massively increased the amount of aluminum in the vaccines. And aluminum alone is a neurotoxin. Mercury alone is a neurotoxin. But mercury and aluminum are greater neurotoxins than with either of the metals on their own. And so now what you have in the vaccines is a larger amount of aluminum with a trace amount of thimerosal, which is still ethylmercury. And those two together are more synergistically toxic and will penetrate into the brain and cause either loss of brain tissue or a permanent and a disability of the brain cells in the first place. The other piece that s I think important to know is that vaccines that are exported out of the United States predominantly contain the same amount of thimerosal that they contained before the 1999 position paper to have them removed. So thimerosal is being injected at higher levels to people around the world. But again, it doesn t necessarily mean higher levels is more toxic because the synergistic effects of mercury and aluminum Or let s say the child that you re injecting has excess lead or other metals that are toxic. Then the synergistic effects of all these metals compounds each other. And you ll get greater neurotoxicity or even any cellular toxicity just from the exposure. Dr. Hardick: So years ago, we started hearing a big movement regarding Green Our Vaccines. In fact, there were marches on Washington, Green Our Vaccines. In particular, I guess my question is do you feel this is doable? Is Green Our Vaccine something that we could see happen in the next five or ten years? TheDetoxProject.com. All rights reserved. 7

8 Dr. Palevsky: The mere injection of proteins into the body is a recipe for immune dysfunction and immune alteration. And it s going to take a while before people start to wake up to the fact that injecting proteins into the body increases immune alterations and also increases the chances for autoimmunity, food allergies, and chronic illness. This is a big problem. In Immunology 101, in first year of medical school, what we were taught was the following. The injection of a protein into the body causes the body to see that protein as a foreign enemy. And so therefore, the immune system will respond with an enemy attack against that protein. There are food proteins in vaccines. And that s why we re having so many food allergies and fatal food allergies. But yet, we keep saying that it s safe to inject these proteins into the body. There s a rise in autoimmunity in our culture in vaccinated populations. And that s because there s a very good chance that some or many of the materials that are in vaccines are similar to or the same as proteins that we have as our own parts of our own bodies. And there s a term in medicine called molecular mimicry. And if you inject a particle through a vaccine into the body, that the body then notices as an enemy, because you injected it, that enemy attack, if it finds a similar protein that s part of our own body or a same protein that s part of our own body, it will then attack our cells because the body has been programmed to see that protein as an enemy. And that s how we create autoimmunity. And the number of cases of autoimmunity in children and adults has been rising exponentially. And nobody s stopping to question whether vaccines can actually be a part of that. Now, I say nobody. I mean nobody in the conventional world, which dominates thinking or dominates thought process in our culture. But there are experts around the world who are very much publicizing how vaccine adjuvants and the injection of vaccine materials is directly leading to a rise in autoimmunity in our bodies. Dr. Hardick: I think this is great because you re getting into a topic that extends beyond toxicity and really just gets into the immune system in general because you ve been talking about the importance of not only limiting your load that gets into the body, but also having a strong immune system in order to be able to deal with it. TheDetoxProject.com. All rights reserved. 8

9 So maybe we can just talk about some of those other pieces there. You mentioned adjuvants. What are some of the adjuvants that you ve also seen used now? And what are some of the complications that they re causing? And maybe could you explain what an adjuvant is? Dr. Palevsky: When a vaccine is injected into the body, if it contains just the bacterial particles or bacterial proteins or bacterial oligosaccharides or if it contains just viral particles or viruses that are attenuated, the body doesn t recognize those bacterial viruses. And immune responses are very minimal. So you re not going to get the kind of antibody response that the experts say your body needs to express in order to give you protection against those bacteria viruses. What the vaccine manufacturers have done is they ve created an adjuvant, in most cases aluminum. But they re experimenting with many other adjuvants for vaccinating use. But what we re using with kids, at least what is said in the package insert, is the use of an aluminum adjuvant. And what happens is the aluminum adjuvant is bound really tightly to the bacterial particle or to the viral particle. And that binding, when introduced into the immune system through the injection, very much catalyzes the immune response. So there s something about the adjuvant. There s something about the exposure to the immune system through an injection from the aluminum and the aluminum-bound virus and bacteria that then ignite a very rapid inflammatory process that then causes the immune system to produce an immune response against the bacteria and viruses leading to an antibody response. Now, the interesting thing about the aluminum is that you ll hear many physicians say, Oh, well, you know, the amount of aluminum that s in vaccines is so minimal compared to what children are exposed to in their environment, through the air or through what they eat. But the aluminum that s in the vaccine as an adjuvant is not the same particle. It s just not. And you have all these people who believe their experts and espouse all these comments about how, Aluminum s not so much in vaccines. It s not, you know, compared to what kids are exposed to in their environment. But the aluminum in vaccines is in a nanoparticle form. And as a nanoparticle, the aluminum is easily capable of extending through any cell membrane of the body, especially the blood-brain barrier. TheDetoxProject.com. All rights reserved. 9

10 So what you have is an aluminum nanoparticle bound to the bacteria and the viruses that ignites an antibody response that then can easily pass through cell membranes, bring the aluminum into the cell, bring the bacterial and viral particles into the cell, and also bring it easily into the brain and cause an inflammatory process and increase the potential for autoimmunity. And that s an exact chemical pathway that we know is happening. And what s interesting is that the pharmaceutical industry uses almost the same technology to enhance the delivery of drugs into the brain. So they use a drug and they bind it to a nanoparticle. And they see that binding a drug to a nanoparticle enhances delivery across the blood-brain barrier into the brain. And so if the technology to increase drug delivery into the brain is the same technology that s used in vaccines, one would stand to reason that that vaccine material s easily passed into the brain, as well. And when you see in the United States one in six children with neurodevelopmental disabilities and that data is really from 2008, and here we are in 2016 then you have to question whether or not vaccines are contributing to these neurodevelopmental disabilities. Dr. Hardick: I d like to get more and more into obviously detoxification and the immune system and some of the things that we can do in order to increase our ability to clear toxins out of the system. But just while we re on the topic of the immune system, what would be your additional concern? Because I know this has been a large part of your work. And what would be your concern about the overuse of antibiotics, antibacterial soaps, and the general weakening of kids immune systems as a result of this overly, overly sanitized culture that we live in now? Dr. Palevsky: Well, report after report keeps coming out about how children who play in the dirt have fewer allergies and stronger immune systems. Children who have pets have stronger immune systems, fewer allergies. Children who live on a farm have stronger immune systems, fewer allergies. And the most recent one just came out this week saying that children who are thumb suckers and who bite their nails have fewer allergies, as well. People have been brainwashed into believing that germs are dangerous. And that s a great, brilliant campaign to get people to buy products, use antibiotics, and use vaccines. But what most people are prevented from really knowing is number one, the body contains over 100 trillion microorganisms that s 10 times the number of cells that we have in our body and that these microorganisms in the right conditions, again based on maintaining good TheDetoxProject.com. All rights reserved. 10

11 nervous system health, immune system health, diets, sleep, good sleep, reduction of stress, you can have the right conditions to allow these microorganisms to do what they re meant to do, which is to keep us well, so the bacteria that are in our intestines, lining our airway, all over our skin, in the vaginal canal of women, the viruses that are within our own DNA that are all over our bodies. Modern science has even shown that we have over a half a million genes that makes viruses and virus-like particles that are embedded in our own DNA. So we re so afraid of microorganisms. And little do we realize that it s the microorganisms that keep our cells running, that keep our cells healthy, and that help us in our attempts to remove impurities. And the use of antibiotics and the overuse of antibiotics, especially in areas where the antibiotics are unnecessary, will alter the good and the bad and create the conditions where our immune systems are weakened. And instead of those bacteria that are supposed to help us, to clean us out, to keep us running properly, we lose those important bacteria. And we end up reducing our defense mechanisms. And it increases our potential for allergies and asthma and chronic illness. Dr. Hardick: I hope our audience realizes that And I ll just go back to your bio because, Dr. Palevsky, you are a former chief of the pediatric acute care unit at New York City s Lenox Hospital. So I think a lot of folks What I ve certainly seen, Dr. Palevsky, in the last number of years, is the holistic community has really come under fire for sometimes ignoring infections. We hear of these studies and cases of families who have ignored an infection, and it s lead to something serious. Not that that might not happen under conventional medical care, as well. I think classically people only look at maybe one or two things in terms of, Does my child have a fever? or other factors to determine whether or not they are actually dealing with some type of intestinal overgrowth or some type of other microorganism overgrowth that could be causing a problem. I guess my question for you is, even from a conventional perspective and still as a primary healthcare provider for you, what other types of things do you look for other than just, Okay, does my child have a fever? Because clearly there s got to be other things to look at to determine whether or not something would constitute a little bit more of a medical emergency requiring a medical visit? TheDetoxProject.com. All rights reserved. 11

12 Dr. Palevsky: Well, again, over the years since I finished my pediatric residency, like to 29 years, I have watched parents believe that their children can t live without antibiotics. And they are taught that children are not supposed to get sick at all. And that the illness can only last a day or less and that they shouldn t have to be sick because you have all these medications to stop the illness. And that the illnesses are unanimously due to an infection. And I ve been practicing a more holistic perspective on medicine for the past 17 or 18 years. And I don t remember the last time I used antibiotics for a kid s acute illness. And when parents begin to allow for themselves to be educated and to understand what the role an acute illness actually has in strengthening the children s immune systems and by holding their hands through it and teaching them, they start to realize that you can practice medicine without using medicine. And I do it. And I do it all the time. And it s not because I m careless. And it s not because I m flippant about it or arrogant about. It s because I understand what the body is doing when it has symptoms. And a fever is only an augmentation of normal body function. Like the body has to stay at about a 98.6, in America Fahrenheit. I think it s 36.5 in Celsius temperature. And the body has to work to keep it that temperature. If it s 10 degrees below body temperature outside, your body is still working to maintain your body temperature. It s not working that hard. But it s still working. And that produces heat. And so the same chemicals that your body produces when you have a fever, are those same chemicals that are used when your body is just trying to deal with the ambient environment. And so the stress level increase. Then the chemicals that help your body keep balance, are also going to increase. And that s not necessarily due to infection. And some day, it will be common knowledge. And people will easily understand and accept that the role of an acute illness is actually to keep the body well and to make sure that the body doesn t continue to be exposed to an accumulation of excess toxins. Dr. Hardick: Definitely a major shift in perspective, that s for sure. I guess another shift would be in your own practice working with kids and families, you would probably have a goal to make sure that families could take very good care of themselves. That they could promote strong immune systems. That they could promote daily detoxification for themselves and for their families. TheDetoxProject.com. All rights reserved. 12

13 So what are some of the lifestyle recommendations, as far as food, everyday habits that you ve encouraged your patients for so many years to use that have kept them out of your office dealing with problems like so many other North Americans are? Dr. Palevsky: The first thing to realize is that 70% to 80% of the immune system in our bodies is located in the intestinal tract. And so you want to create the proper food to be fed to your body that s going to help you stay well. And what I see in my practice and in the world is people struggling to actually maintain food in their diet. I don t believe there s such a term as junk food. It s either junk or it s food. Dr. Hardick: Way to put it. Dr. Palevsky: But there s no such thing as junk food. That s another oxymoron like jumbo shrimp and military intelligence and green vaccines. We re embracing the okayness of putting non-food items into the body. And you would never allow that same okayness for putting non-gasoline fluids into your car. You would never okay that putting non-fast processors in your computers, cellphones, and ipads. You would never okay using a non-big flat screen TV in your 50,000 square foot basement. If you know what I mean? But we okay the putting in of non-food items into the body. And then, we can t figure out why our bodies are breaking down. So if people can start to ingest as many organic foods as possible, and I know that s a cost prohibition for a lot of people, so at least start eating real food. Things that grow in the ground, come off a tree, come off a vine, walk on the ground, swim in the ocean, fly in the air. And that s food. And anything that doesn t come from that is really a non-food item. And so the health of the body starts with that. The largest struggle that I see in my practice, even in the holistic community, is the reduction of sugar in the diet - sugar, white sugar, flour products, which turn into sugar, high-fructose corn syrup, bread, pasta, crackers, cookies, cake, doughnuts, muffins, waffles, pretzels, cereal, bagels, croissants, goldfish, these are all non-food items. And these are a mainstay in the diet, including lots of candy, cookies, soda. These are non-foods. And they re very, very, high in sugar. And basic physiology teaches us that when you increase sugar, when you raise insulin levels, when you have spikes of insulin levels that go up and down because you eat either mostly carbohydrates or only carbohydrates at a meal, you will increase inflammation in the body. And increasing TheDetoxProject.com. All rights reserved. 13

14 inflammation in the body is the core foundational issue that contributes to chronic illness. And so the two things that I struggle with, even in a holistic practice because we have to live in the world and we have to watch what s happening around us, is to encourage real food and to reduce the amount of sugar that comes from white sugar, corn syrup, and flour products. And once you do that, you can start to see, in addition to identifying food allergens, you can start to see a big change in our bodies and in our health. And then good sleep. Creating an environment that s nurturing for good sleep, dark rooms, no electronics, and proper schedules where kids and adults really take care of themselves and go to bed at a reasonable hour. Dr. Hardick: I remember when I was a little kid, even my family doctor who definitely back then was for more of the conventional world he was a good friend of my father there was one vitamin that he always recommended, which was just vitamin C. And, of course, looking back at the vitamin C that I used to chomp on as a kid, it was full of fructose. So it was full of sugar. And I think obviously the recommendations we usually hear is, Hey, get food, get actual food in. And then you don t need to worry about it from vitamins and so forth. But have you had any recommended top one, two, or three vitamins or supplements that you ve recommended for kids or families, specifically because of the challenges of avoiding sugar and the difficulty getting in good quality organic food? Where would a family start if they were going to look at any vitamins? Dr. Palevsky: Well, this is a contentious subject because I m not a fan of relying on vitamins because you re not eating food. And again, the assumption that many people have is that if you re not eating a lot of food, Well, at least I m getting it from a vitamin. And there are a lot of assumptions there, number one, that your body can actually utilize the chemicals from the vitamin that you re using, and two, that there is the right conditions in your intestines to even allow for the absorption of that vitamin because if you re not eating food and you re eating non-food items, chances are you have an inflammatory process in your intestinal lining. And so absorption of even food products and absorption of chemicals are both going to diminish in the milieu of increased inflammation. TheDetoxProject.com. All rights reserved. 14

15 So when I work with kids with chronic illness, it s hard for me to add supplements, even though I try to, because the addition of the supplements, I have no clue as to their value or worth because of the amount of inflammation that already exists in the intestinal lining. I can see improvement in their intestinal lining if they change their diet. And then I can use supplements as a treatment. But I don t use supplements as a supplement. Dr. Hardick: Dr. Palevsky, this has been tremendous. I ve been taking notes. And I just want to read back a few of the key points that I ve jotted down for our audience. A couple of things that really hit home for me is obviously focuses on not just the toxic load getting into the body. But also the body s ability to remove what s getting in there. You used that term allostasis. I think that s incredible. You also talked about not relying just upon vitamins to get the food. Make sure you re relying upon food to get your food. Seventy or eighty percent of your immune system residing in the intestinal tract and therefore, taking care of it. Dr. Palevsky talked about reducing the amount of sugar, which also means flour and high-fructose corn syrup and bread and cookies and crackers and anything starchy, and also, obviously increasing organics. And if you can t increase organics, increase the amount of real food. A couple of big take homes when you talk about some of the injectables was obviously just that concern of a nanoparticle. Obviously, the concern that certainly aluminum used in vaccines. In the case of a nanoparticle is the exact same process that s used by pharmaceutical companies, specifically to get drugs into the brain. That s something I would want to watch out for. So, folks, to learn a little bit more about Dr. Palevsky, his practice and anywhere he would be speaking or presenting, make sure you go to DrPalevsky.com. We will have all the links available to you to thank you for being here on The Detox Project. Dr. Larry Palevsky, thank you so much! Dr. Palevsky: Thank you! It s a pleasure being here! TheDetoxProject.com. All rights reserved. 15